economic growth,secularism etc is fine but...
what is our identity?how do we define it?how do we make people buy into it?this touches secularism/fundamentalism/feudal everything.this is the key.i said a long time ago in this blog that cricket or sports in general is perhaps the only thing that unites us in this country.otherwise its shia/sunni, in sunnis its depbandis/barelvis etc.ethnically its sindhi/balochi/punjabi/pakhtun/muhajir etc.or its seraiki belt vs rest of punjab or even more pitiful biradiri system or tribal system.arains/jats/bugtis/afridis etc etc.our whole society is characterised by groupings/subgroupings and so on.islam was the unifying force but how do we go about promoting Pakistan first.cos when it comes to Islam, the fundamentalists have taken hold of that and for them its about the ummah first and then pakistan.i have no problems in helping out the ummah but the best way to do that is by strentghening Pakistan and anyway we've pretty much established that the mullah knows nothing.Pakistaniat.how to create?what to do?how do we make a baloch tribal a proud pakistani etc etc.when can we see the day where there is no more talk of provincial nationalism.when its ok for people to move across provinces to work and marry.is it simply education and economic development thats needed.oh and btw what is our culture?
posted by Jerry shah at 5:25 PM
8 Comments:
yes exactly.what happens if we had peace and the kashmir problem becomes history.ure right.i agree with u.
100%
7:38 PM
yeah totally agree.plus its thx to u and the rest that this is all happening.
8:04 PM
brilliant.
8:46 PM
the funny or sad thing depending on how u look at it is that all the politicians especially those in opposition propogate the opposite as being good for the federation.giving greater autonomy to the provinces would result in a stronger pakistan.the way i see it with all the issues uve raised which are true if autonomy canada style was to be given to the provinces in five years all would be trying to secede and the center wont be able to do anything about it.iran helping the baloch,the indians sindh and nwfp merging with southern afghanistan.tht'll leave us hated punjabis by our lonesome. pakistan survives if center is strong and sincere.tiesto's new album rocks btw.
8:53 PM
hustler is 2 good.i had the book.ill let u know whther i have it.jeromiyah@hotmail.com is my addy but i dont come on msn.harrass all u want at least ill be on my toes.
2:36 AM
I think shahan answered his own question. India’s representation as an enemy will fluctuate in Pakistan’s affections but is unlikely to disappear given the legitimacy it gives to the establishment in terms of uniting the country and defence budget allocations.
I have a couple of questions regarding Muneeba’s post somewhere down the line your excerpt seems to suggest that nationalist outbursts were a direct outcome of democratic government (well quasi at least) which implies that nationalist conflict is something that is inherent to Pakistan and so efforts should be focused towards quelling it. However ethnic groups are another form of identity politics and authors like Brueilly mark out ethnicity as just another political resource with which you vie with the center for resources (e.g. language as a tool for the Sindhi movement). Instead of focusing on repressive measures shouldn’t any sort of government in power try to at least address the original concerns of such movements? The rhetoric of ethnicity comes much after very basic deprivations such as unemployment, skewed budget allocations etc. As Jarrar pointed out in his initial post on religious politics, the fundos came up because of income disparity and lack of education and what not. Could be the same for ethnic movements.
2:48 AM
true.i think no one suggests repressive measures.economic development that improves the lot of the people is what is needed.however writ of the state needs to be enforced everywhere.enough of this tribal area business.this is the 21st century.there cant be states within the states.so if the state needs to use heavy handed tactics in situations where the state has been challenged so be it.but mostly carrots and not sticks should be used.
10:55 AM
i have the book muneeba
1:03 PM
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