Tuesday, July 12, 2005

new globalised scenario?

in the wake of london's bombings and the excellent ensuing discussion on meher's blog i thought i'd add my two cents to the debate.we live in tumultous times.not that any other era was not but its become a bit scarier now.9/11 changed the world.like the end of the cold war this was a turning point in current affairs.who did 9/11 and why ill come to later.as many who have commented on meher's blog have said the seeds were sown during the afghan jihad.i'd say the seeds were drawn in the late 19th/early 20th century.barring iran and a few others the entire muslim world as we now know it was colonised by the europeans.for muslims it would take almost two cernturies of repressing colonial rule before they would start to emerge from their deep slumber.in our own homeland we first had sir syed and iqbal on one side and maududi on the other.sir syed and iqbal preached the progressive message.maududi in essence said this was Allah's punishment for us since we had gone astray from the true path.iqbal and sir syed implored muslims to seek knowledge just as the Quran and prophet had ordered.maududi and his like scorned mordern subjects and philosophy.in other parts especially in egypt there was this progressive scholar Hassan Al BAnna(correct me if i have the name wrong).he went abroad to seek higher education from paris and then later on america.this is sometime around WWI.however what he saw instead of enlightening him infuriated him.he didnt see the scientific progress or economic progress of the west.all he saw was vice and debauchery.gambling,drinking and prostitution etc.he came back convinved that the westerners were the disciples of satan.hence was born the muslim brotherhood.his student was a fellow named syed qutb.this guy would be the one along with maududi who would form the basis of fundamentalists islam's ideology.and guess who's osama bin laden's hero and inspiration?syed Qutb who else.qutb basically passed fatwas that there were no innocents amongst the non-muslims.that this jihad took precedence over all the other definations of jihad.obviously jihad being killing and driving off all non-muslims from muslim lands.but why would it take so many years for qutb's message to find resonance amongst the muslims.well for starters majority of the movements that won freedom for their countries were secular and socialist in nature.secondly people were taken in by the charisma of leaders such as nasser,soekarno and later on bhutto.the second last nail in the coffin for moderate muslim societies was the overwhelming failure on the part of the above mentioned leaders to deliever.nasser and bhutto failed misreably.in fact the arabs were so inept that they were totally humiliated by israel time and again.hence the anger on the street and in some drawing rooms started to grow.during this time the funda menatlist who were constantly gaining ground hated the godless state of soviet union more then amreeka.america was hated because of itrs blind support for israel but not as much as the soviet union which was seen as busy spreading its godless message across the wmuslim world.anyway the final nail in the coffin was the afghan war.america seeking to gain revenge funded and trained thousands of jihadis and the rest is history.one thing that our jihadis concluded in the aftermath was that they were invincible.if they could defeat the worlds mightiest army surely they could defeat the iundians in kashmir,israelis in palestine and one day overthrow all the american backed dictatorships in their home countries.it was God's will.i dont how they totally ignored the fact that it was US arms that finally changed the tide of the war in afghanistan.it was the introduction of the stinger missiles that saved the mujahideen.and it was america who provided the stingers.the jihad in kashmir totally destroyed the case of kashmiris in the international arena and india went on to commit the absolute worst human rights atrocities in kashmir not that our brave mujahids were far behind in this department either.

9/11 owes a great deal to american policies.yet 9/11 is not justified.in fact 9/11 has brought america even deeper into our lives and societies.america in its post cold war euphoria totally forgot bt the creature it had begotten in afghanistan.in todays context its unexplainable why they would do such a thing but then it made perfect sense.with the war over and the soviet union crumbling there job was done.they left it to us pakistanis to clean up the mess.unfortunatly the mess had spilled over into our country.uff the policies we had during the 90's drive me insane.what the hell were we thinking promoting jihad and entities like taliban.we are as much to blame for 9/11 as anyone else.and in many ways im glad musharaf did what he did immeadiatly after 9/11.my only regret being we should have done it ourselves much before 9/11.

now post 9/11 the status quo was unacceptable.we see people talking about oic reform,un reform, democracy etc etc and all of this is good and welcome.the reason why i supported the iraq war was two fold.if america succeeded then maybe democracy and reform would have initiated in the middle east.if it failed then america would have had to leave the region to a great extent and would probably not go on any more adventures anytime soon.so far its mixed.middle eastern countries are starting to reform and open up.lebanon just pushed the syrians out.egypt is having elections in which hosni mubarik will have to face challengers.kuwait had introduced democracy and even saudi arabia has has local body elections.however on the negative side and this is bigger than the positives,iraq is proving to be al qaedas biggest recruiting tool.future generation of suicide bombers are being produced.and it is safe to say now that at least the americans wont be invading in these parts anytime soon.so where do we go from here?
OIC will not be credible anytime soon.do we keep on moving towards the clash of civilisations which we'll surely lose cos we r just not strong enough or do we become players and stakeholders in the shrinking globalised world?as societies we need to look inwards and ask ourselves a few basic questions.one is islam going to be represented by the fire breathing mullahs and secondly how is it that islamic law has not evolved since abu hanifa's time?infact weve gone further back and extreme with mr. wahab(founder of wahabiism) and syed qutb and co.do we really need to fight and destroy every non-muslim society?we need to stop blaming everyone and his uncle for our ills.we need to stop living in the past remembering how glorious we were.we need to stop being so fatalistic.we need to grow,we need to prosper and we can do all of that only if we ourselves want to do it.no one is going to hand it to us on a silver platter.there are no free lunches.
for starters if we really want america to leave iraq soon then we muslim countries need to step up to the plate cos unfortunatly the iraqi security infrastructure is no match for zarqawi and his fellow thugs.so if we dont want a repeat of afghanistan during the 90's we need to come up with a credible peace keeping force that can replace the amreekans and the brits.the iraqis deserve a secure freedom plus all of us will be better off for it.a stable iraq means among other things lower oil prices.
sorry for the long length.

7 Comments:

Blogger Meher said...

"the reason why i supported the iraq war was two fold.if america succeeded then maybe democracy and reform would have initiated in the middle east."

I cant begin to explain how repulsed i was when America decided to go to war with Iraq we all knew there were no weapons of mass destruction and the supposed link bet bin laden and saddam was hilarious...what was it "operation iraqi liberation" more like operation-we-are-hypocrites-and-actually-we-want-to-colonize-the-world" plzzzz...

and what democracy!??! the U.S has no love lost for the Iraqi people...they will walk away from iraq just as they walked away from Afghanistan, devastated by a ten year Soviet occupation.

According to Rashid, “In the 1980s the USA was prepared ‘to fight till the last Afghan’ to get even with the Soviet Union, but when the Soviets left, Washington was not prepared to help bring peace or feed a hungry people...By walking away from Afghanistan as early as it did, the USA faced within a few years dead diplomats, destroyed embassies, bombs in New York and cheap heroin on its streets, as Afghanistan became a sanctuary for international terrorism and the drugs mafia.”

Not a justification but unfortunate consequences...
I think Iraq will be the new Afghanistan if it isn’t already...

"if it failed then america would have had to leave the region to a great extent and would probably not go on any more adventures anytime soon"

yea rightttttt..why the hell not!??!what and more like who will stop them from continuing such adventures!??! America is the only country that has been condemned for international terrorism by the World Court and the only country that rejected a Security Council resolution calling on states to observe international law. In fact America has committed massive acts of international terrorism and brutal genocide - throughout the 20th century...and there is no word to describe its foreign policy except colonization

"we need to stop blaming everyone and his uncle for our ills.we need to stop living in the past remembering how glorious we were.we need to stop being so fatalistic.we need to grow,we need to prosper and we can do all of that only if we ourselves want to do it.no one is going to hand it to us on a silver platter.there are no free lunches." ABSOLUTELY!!!

you're right muslim countries need to step up to the plate if we want the u.s out...but wait do we really have that choice/option?! the truth is there is one big FAT bully in the playground and we just want to stay outta his hair...that is sad but very true

11:58 PM

 
Blogger Meher said...

okay my next blog is def about the big bully...so many ideas so lil time hahaha..

12:02 AM

 
Blogger Jerry shah said...

good spirit.as for WMD's and all that crap well that was just smokescreen.neo conservative policy which had been floating around DC for quite some time basically had three tenets.by spreading democracy in the middle east by force they in their opinion would secure middle eastern oil supplies for america for quite sometime.b)they would secure israels security since there would be no hostile iranian/syrian/iraqi regimes in the region anymore and finally in "free" societies there would be no need for arab men to make planes into guided missiles.quite ambitious and naive.but 9/11 played into their hands.they just overplayed theirs.
the whole thing is complicated.something needs to be done on both sides.they have genuine greviances.we have genuine greiviances.we can either slug em out or we can help each other and understand each other.sounds naive but america is quickly realising it can no longer go it alone.it needs friends.its upto us to either gloat over their misfortunes while we ourselves are in pathetic positions or we can all come together to solve this shit out.
take iraq for example.the iraqis sufferred at the hands of saddam.now theyre sufferring at the hands of america and the jihadis.its time they were given a break and unfortunatly as good as this might make us feel, america leaving with its tail between its legs wont do any good whatsoever.hence a muslim peacekeeping army.if iraqs neighbors think they can stand aside and let iraq rot they should better think again.they just need to look at what has happened to us cos of afghanistan.
my next post will be abt the hisba bill being introduced in the nwfp by the mma.this exemplifies best how our society has changed because of the afghan jihad.

11:38 AM

 
Blogger moizza said...

Qutb didn't start with the whole creed of violence. It was only long after his imprisonment and the growing restlessness of the group that he gave sanction to violence. His imprisonment was probably the transformative experience and on a larger scale activism patterns have seemed to replicate his experience. I.e. activists start with the domestic scene, try to make a difference, local government (usually authoritarian or else "Islamic" democracy)cracks down hard, does not let them implement any sort of change. Handicapped at home, they start exporting their activism (e.g. bin Laden and Al- Qaeda core etc) to equally blameworthy and more accessible western targets where the universally (now decreasingly so) liberal environment makes them easy to do so. And local governments rarely have an issue with that.

7:16 PM

 
Blogger Jerry shah said...

yeah i know qutb became militant after prison and torture.but hes the inspiration for al zawahiri and bin laden.unfortunatly bin laden has and will become for countless others

10:24 PM

 
Blogger moizza said...

It's going to be near impossible to recast the conflict in any other terms than West versus Muslims. It sells. It is enough for the West to see itself as one, to demonize all Muslims regardless of how factionalized they might be. Any sort of attempts to negotiate/fight from outside the clash of civilizations perspective is not acknowledged at the micro-level. Could be because the terrorists come from countries all over the Muslim world. You can't even target one country to redeem the rest of the Muslim world. It's not exactly earning Pakistanis any dividends to be an ally in the war on terror though at macro level it may be keeping the country in good books.

9:45 PM

 
Blogger Jerry shah said...

totally agree.all empires or superpowers need enemies to sustain trhemselves.america is no different.this was exactly what huntington forecasted and probably argued for after the cold war.people like fukiyama thought that the cold war had established market driven liberal democracies as the sole workable model and as democracies didnt fight each other that was the end of history so to speak.he was wrong.huntington's theory proved to be a self fulfilling prophecy.at least from our point of view.muslims all over totally feel a clash of civilisations has begun.many in the west have begun to think otherwise due to the iraq blunder.hopefully things'll improve for all of our sakes.alternatives not rosy

6:01 PM

 

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